Christos Jonathan Hayward
#0
I spent a couple of years at Fordham University, and when I realized I couldn\'t really explain the links I wanted to give without some explanation of my experience at Fordham University, I spent a while trying to think about a way to explain how bad it was without giving what are often obscene details. So I will just say this: my time at Fordham was rougher than my experience of chemotherapy--or some other things like radiotherapy that left me with a radiation burn inside my throat. (Sorry to be graphic; I was trying to avoid being much more graphic.)
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Christos Jonathan Hayward
#1
My apologies for the incomplete post; I tried to preview my post beginning and accidentally posted it when I meant to preview.
At any rate, I would like to talk about what I have looked for in redeeming virtue out of a very rough experience.
I meant to start this and complete the post tomorrow, on the feast. (Or rather, after the feast dinner, since liturgically the old style feast day for the Nativity of the Theotokos has begun.) But I don\'t want to leave people hanging.
At any rate, it was a very rough experience, and it gave me something to work with ascetically. I\'ve found that when I\'m going through a rough spot I often seek things that are good for me, and when things are easy I often seek things that are more pleasant than good for me.
At any rate, I had a really rough time at school, and the official version is that I washed out of a Ph.D. program. (Note: I ranked 7th in the U.S. in a math contest, among other major distinctions. But, officially, I didn\'t cut it in the Ph.D. program, and so far at least, that door is closed.)
But there were a couple of things that have come out of that realization. One is that I have wanted to write theology, and being out of academic theology is not a hindrance. And I have been trying, although it seems there are major flaws--[url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/grail/]The Sign of the Grail[/url] may register as somewhere between impressive spiritually, and spiritually flawed, and as time has passed I\'ve learned more of my spiritual flaws that bled into that piece.
Now I have written a new piece, [url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/technonomicon/]Technonomicon: Nature, Technology, Ascesis[/url], which I believe has some strengths, but in some ways can\'t compete with a real discussion about striving with the passions. Maybe it\'s closer to being really theological, though.
One point that I realized as I was writing it was that probably my biggest discovery at Fordham was an unpleasant find--of a bad article, with lots of questionable spin doctoring, which seemed to answer something that had been puzzling me: why, on one matter, the Orthodox Church was presented as having a position that didn\'t fit.
For a long time, I sat on my find, mainly because I didn\'t see making a big potential controversy as something I should be doing--the probable explanation would be that, like before, I have found what seemed like a reason for a big reform because of my half-baked level of maturity in Orthodoxy. And I expected, \\"I don\'t see why, but I have to be wrong.\\"
But what I realized was that what I was trying to write in [url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/technonomicon/]Technonomicon[/url] was incomplete without the other piece--[url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/contraception/]Orthodoxy and Contraception: A Look at an Influential but Disturbing Article[/url].
In trying to fetch redeeming virtue out of a rough experience--beyond simply that I was struggling to serve the Lord under rougher-than-chemo conditions, which is itself ascesis and theology--[url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/contraception/]Orthodoxy and Contraception[/url] is the one thing that I\'d like to find a redeeming virtue in: if [url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/contraception/]Orthodoxy and Contraception[/url] helps others hear something the Orthodox Church needs, then maybe there is one thing I accomplished apart from whatever I may gain ascetically from fighting passions under rough times.
Please pray for people who will see [url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/technonomicon/]Technonomicon[/url] and [url=http://JonathansCorner.com/writing/contraception/]the piece on contraception[/url].
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wadaya mean man??? We are all Gods children and we all bear a cross I am a simple carpenter and if I can help to cary yours bless me with it God loves you and so do I ... we get it all screwed up when we let our heads try to figure out the unknowable Christ died for us ... now lets spen the rest of our days saying thank you ...Blessings ...Michael
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Christos Jonathan Hayward
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I do not know that much about the boundaries of oikonomia; I have studied a great deal about spin doctoring, and can show you a thesis I wrote about spin doctoring in relation to scholarly work. Is Zaphiris\'s work, and his position on contraception, beyond all permissible oikonomia? I would be wary of claiming to establish that. Was his work spin doctoring, the kind that usually masks treachery and lies? That I can speak to: yes.
I wrote at the end of my paper, \\"There could conceivably be good reasons to change the ancient tradition of the Orthodox Church from time immemorial to almost the present day. Maybe. But this is not it. (And if these are the best reasons Zaphiris found to change the immemorial tradition of the Church, perhaps it would be better not to do so.)\\"
Jonathan
http://JonathansCorner.com
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Christos Jonathan Hayward
#5
P.S.
You wrote, \\"I have also asked myself many times - If I use birth control of any kind, either natural or artificial, would the baby I prevented from conceiving be the same one that I will get later on when I cause a successful conception to occur? In other words, did I destroy lives along the way, or did I simply delay the arrival of the same child?\\"
The answer to that one strikes me as fairly simple. Without going into too much biology, if conception is prevented in a marital act, however natural or artificial the means is considered, the genetic material that make the possibility of conception, on both the mother\'s side, are ended permanently. Not delayed; for the same child to be conceived later on is simply impossible, like eating the same sandwich months or years after throwing it into a compost pile.
And if St. John Chrysostom calls contraception worse than murder, I\'m really not sure how much more you want to hear before considering the question as one that the Fathers may have answered.
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Charles Compston
#6
The Churches stance, for the most part, is Oikonomia. This means it would be left up to the couple\'s spiritual father as to whether contraception would be, or even should be, used. Above that speculation is unhealthy, and may cause someone to fall.
My wife, and i, have used contraception, and both times we had children-if God wants a child to be born believe me He will have it happen regardless of our plans! Unfortunately my wife had to have a tubal ligation because of other problems. We hope that perhaps one more time God will bless us with another child, but God\'s will be done.
I\'m interested in which homily St. John discusses contraception. I\'ve read quite a few of his homilies, but i don\'t recall coming across anything like that. Thanks in advance.
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Charles Compston
#7
It has dawned on me that my post seems a little judgmental. Please forgive me, it was not my intent.
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