Orthodox Music

It\'s a terrible band. Orthodoxy became somewhat of a political hobby these days in Russia. One of their albums is called Solncevorot, which is the name for the Russian swastika.

sounds beautiful but i dont understand a word accept Theotokos and Kyrie

It\'s glorious. Yes, please keep us posted!

I set my phone to just light up the screen - since my new phone number gets a ridiculous amount of unknown callers (I think the number was previously used on some advertising or something)... even on vibrate it was too much inconvenience (especially as a teacher) considering it rings at least 30 times a day.... if I didn\'t have that burden I\'d put something from the folk music I enjoy... church is church - what\'s not in church is in my words deeds and actions - not tootling out of my cell phone plus it would be kind of bad if you associated church hymns with \\"ah dangit! why am I always being disturbed!?!?\\"

how about just the \\"tock tock tock\\" sound when they hit the wood with the hammer at the monasteries? kind of less demeaning to the church\'s holy music.

The devil will use any means to deceive us, whether directly or indirectly. For in 1 Peter 5 verse 8 we will find: "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour." Was not Lucifer, before he sinned against God with his pride, the one in charge of music in heaven? Are we to believe that heavy Mettallica music, loud guitars, etc, will be heard in heaven? Does this kind of music bring peace to the soul? Is not our God the God of peace and love?

"For changing people's manners and altering their customs, there is nothing better than music" (Shu Ching, 6th Century BC).The following artilce explains rock music from a Christian viewpoint and it is written by Bishop Alexander (Mileant)http://www.fatheralexander.org/booklets/english/rock_music_e.htmI will add the conclusion from this article which I agree with 100%.From very ancient times, music expressed the composers's most lofty and noble feelings. It calmed, gave joy and assisted in conceiving a prayerful emotion within the listener. Like poetry, music mirrored nothing but high, "not of this world," creative endowments.We read in Genesis that the angels and saints in Heaven sing praises to God. But does music exist in Hell? If so, it would no doubt remind one of rock and "heavy metal" music! This type of music awakens appalling and violent carnal emotions. It agitates the dark bottom of the listener's soul, surfacing its cabbalistic and sinful qualities. As the words from Revelations remind us: "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down into you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (Rev. 12:12).A spiritually perceptive individual cannot but see the devil's influence on contemporary music, on the make-up of films and TV programs, on the upsurge of enthusiasm for Eastern mysticism, transcendental meditation and yoga, the escalating popularity of spiritism, astrology and extrasensory forms of healing. The tentacles of the Prince of Darkness are penetrating deeper and deeper into the lives of modern-day people. "By their fruit you shall know them."Children and teenagers appear to be the main "users" of contemporary violent music. Unfortunately, the majority of them do not comprehend the meaning and nuance of the words that they are listening to. Their insufficiently developed powers of reasoning makes it impossible for them to understand the sexual allegories, the various depraved terminologies and occult concepts embodied in such songs. Moreover, they are not conscious of the satanic attributes of this music. All they hunger for are powerful stimuli; something new and interesting, and exciting rhythms of rock music that are attune with the baser instincts of their nature.The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), concluded that the majority of modern music and rock-video is a bigger threat to the health of children and teenagers than that posed by poliomyelitis several years ago. In the opinion of the representatives of the AAP, prolonged listening to "heavy metal" music can result in the spiritual mutilation of the individual, leaving permanent scars on the psyche. Worst of all, rock music and "heavy metal" have developed into a vanguard of anti-Christian sentiments.But contemporary frenetic music also masks graver maladies of our modern society. The words in rock music possibly appeal to the young because, in rejecting the ideals of the older generation, they have not discovered any worthy aspirations in life. They display their disappointment in their parents by utilizing this music as a form of protest.In this context, parents should appraise the sincerity of their faith in God and determine whether their priorities, within the family group, conform to Christian teachings. Do all the family members regularly pray to God; do they attend church services; do they partake of Holy Communion; do they observe Lent and Church Holy Days; do they read the Bible together; do they converse about God? If not, the children will be left with a definite spiritual void, waiting to be filled with anything that comes their way.Naturally, the surrounding influences are quite strong, and often parents are quite helpless in withstanding them. Consequently, there is a need to converse with children about these contemporary problems and make them aware of these perils. The most important thing is to pray to God, so that He may guide them along His path toward salvation, because  "what is impossible to man, is possible to God." 

There is a definite spirit invoked in rock music, secular or Christian — and it's NOT the Holy Spirit!

The link below is a you tube clip called "Sirens." Its about a Greek Australian rock musician who changed his life around to follow Jesus Christ. He also explains how music is well used by Satan. The only problem is that it is in Greek with no english subs. My apoligies for those who do not understand Greek. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thbV6AcJG-o

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I need to play a song for my Music merit badge and I could use some Church songs using chords (tunings will also be appreciated I am using drop c at the moment) HELP

I should reply to myself before I judge such a thing. I am wrong. I shouldn\'t ask how Orthodox somebody else is, when I am not yet a member of the Orthodox Church. I was wrong to phrase it that way. But I mean, Part does quote the Latin text of the Creed with ex Patre Filioque, when if he wished to have the Western form of the Orthodox Church Creed, he would have had the Orthodox terms in it \"qui ex Patre procedit ...\" This is the ecumenist spirit when it comes to the Creed. But the Creed is the heart of the Orthodox Faith in words. However, Orthodoxy comes in more than words. As it is, I am an unworthy person, so I just react to words sometimes. We all have far to come in America, to be anything like the saints of old. We are quite secularized and modernistic here. It\'s hard not to live for the moment, and do things that are wrong, or at least questionable. Anyway, God in His mercy may He still save us yet. We need it. I need it for sure. God bless and save all of you; all of you Christ remember in His Kingdom. Always Scott

This is not strictly Orthodox music, but generally I find Celtic music to be similar to Orthodoxy in spirit at least. The Irish at one time were Orthodox, and Celtic Christianity has often or many times been independent of Latin-papal influence in its liturgical, calendar customs in the West. Anyway, have you heard Loreena McKennitt\'s cd and dvd boxed set, \"Nights from the Alhambra\"? \"Dante\'s Prayer\" is pretty good song. Take care. The \"Mummer\'s Dance\" song is odd but interesting. :grin:

Dear friends, For those of you who follow classical music, do you know of Orthodox composers John Taverner and Arvo Part? Arvo Part is Estonian Orthodox. John Taverner is English/British and a convert to the Russian Orthodox Church in Britain. I found no problems with the music, but I wonder your opinion on this: Part follows the Western liturgy in some of his works, and has works in Latin, as this is typical of classical music. However, he quotes the Latin Western version of the Mass with the \"CREDO\" including the Filioque! For shame! The music is beautiful! But for a person attempting to bring entertainment in a godly spirit, it is unacceptable to have a heterodox doctrine in the liturgy. Truly, though, we don\'t go to church to be entertained. I guess that\'s part of my personal problem; I am easily bored. I find it hard to get to church, any church. I believe Orthodoxy is the Truth, but the liturgy is not entertainment. That kind of convinces me of the worth of Eastern worship styles; this is for God, not man. This is not to make us feel good (or bad for that matter). This is about connecting with God. Anyway, it will be awhile before I am doing what I should. I need to get to church. But my purpose here was just to note: Part kind of fudged the liturgy with a Western bent, so it is entertainment, not Orthodox theology, that comes here. Anyway, I need to do better, so I can understand if people are doing what they know not. I still don\'t quite know what I am doing. But no longer can I say (believe) \"who proceeds from ...\" The Father \"and the Son\". It hurts my conscience to say that; that\'s kind of why I can no longer attend Lutheran services without feeling strange and not at home. Oh well. Take care. Always, Scott :confused: :confused: :confused:

Cat Stevens was born Greek Orthodox but apparently the faith he was raised in didn\'t remain what he held to recently. He had an unpronounceable Greek name, all joking aside, but seriously, I think his father was a traditional Greek Orthodox man, maybe even had his own restaurant or something like that, I can\'t remember. Anyway, Cat Stevens is now a Mohammedan and changed his named from his Greek name to Cat Stevens to Yusuf Islam, his \"Islamic\" name. I think he was a New Age person for awhile, maybe too. Seals and Crofts were very New Age, and they were Bahai people. Bahai is a very interesting syncretistic faith, but rather pantheistic and illogical. Their song \"Hummingbird don\'t fly away, fly away ...\" is rather emotional and touching, but it tends toward the warning of worshipping and serving the creature more than the Creator, Who Alone is Blessed .... Anyway, we love animals, but no love is greater than the love of God Our Father. God save us all from falling. Always,

I think one can be conservative and faithful to Orthodox tradition without becoming like a Protestant fundamentalist, refusing to think things through logically as far as the limits of human reason will go, and go fully to those limits, knowing in this life, of the things of God, we will understand and know only in part. While rationaiism and intellectual pride is not the way to go, false mysticism, relativism, and syncretism, irrationalism is not the way, either, and if Taverner tries to act as an alleged \"free thinker\" or \"mystic\", I reserve judgment to God\'s mercy: God will judge others; I judge no one (no man). Anyway, perhaps his doctrines are not in keeping with Orthodoxy; in that case, we should be cautious about listening too closely to his work. I listened to his cello music cd, \"The Protecting Veil\" about the Blessed Theotokos, and found it rather strange. Anyway, I guess prayer and incense and asking \"Through the intercessions of the Blessed Theotokos, LORD have mercy on us ...\" is sufficient. We don\'t need cello music to revere the Blessed Mother of God. Take care. Part is definitely Western Latin in his use of the Latin creed with \"Filioque\". It is OKAY to recite the Nicene Creed IN LATIN as LONG AS it SAYS \"qui ex Patre procedit\" and does not add the word \"FILIOQUE\". Take care.

Loreena\'s music has been with me since I was a teen, and has helped me to keep seeking higher. It can be a great bridge between the secular world and something more intangible. It was a constant through all my spiritual seeking, and I\'m glad I still have it in my life. As for \\"The Mummers\' Dance\\", I feel it\'s a perfect description of the celtic/saxon journey from pagan celebrations of Spring to celebrations such as St. George\'s Day and other traditionally British Orthodox festivals. The boxed set is fabulous, as are all of her other albums. Yngh Hrist, Sara-Melangell

Hi Gordie: I know exactly what you mean about the feminist Catholic perspective. Haven\'t seen that documentary, but I\'ve seen similar ones on Dame Julian of Norwitch and Hildagard of Bingen and such. I\'ll see if I can find this one. Is Matthew Fox in it, do you recall? He seems to be in every feminist documentary about medieval Christianity and even some about medieval pagan-type stuff. I myself was a Christian (though unbaptized) when I encountered Loreena\'s music, then later I became a pagan and a witch, and finally, by the prayers of our Most Holy Theotokos I\'m sure, I was able to come to Orthodoxy. I know what you mean about the mysticism of The Theotokos and discovering that. God bless, Sara-Melangell

Does anybody know where I can get a CD of Carpatho-Rusyn prostopinije on CD? I\'d like to listen to it on my drive to work!

A Russian friend of mine that studies English with me (I\'m a teacher) has a ringtone for her daughter that starts with a pop Russian tune \\"mamochka\\" (mommy!). It\'s funny every time when we\'re in a lesson and her daughter calls (who attends my kid group lessons). (MA-much-KUH...)