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Misha Sarov
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Ioannis wrote:
Last year the great churches in Germany (protest./rom.cath./orthod.) signed a statement of mutual recognition of the baptism.
as i know the patriarchate of Moscow said that the russian bishop who signed this text hadn\'t the permission to do so.
there are several texts like this ,especially during the WCC activities,like the so called Balamd agreement.
there were also some synods who have declared some kind of reunion:the two pseudosynods of Florence and Lyon.
unfortunately,this is another sign of our times.
its a sign of the religion of the future as fr Seraphim Rose wrote .
without any intention to offend anyone i ll say one more thought.
if we accept that outside of the Orthodox Church there is a valid baptism,why not to accept that every other sacrament is also valid?
and if the protestant,latin etc sacraments are valid and lead to the salvation why to be orthodox?
and why our saints fought so hardly against the heresies,even the minor ones?
it seems that they (our saints) could see some thing that we cannot discern ,because we are myopes.
maybe,what i say sounds strange or hard to the ears of some brothers converts.
but this is what i ve learned from my little experience and conversations with several holy men and women
i ll add another useful text from fr George Dragas (sorry for the multiple links but there is no table of contents in the website)
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/Dragas_RomanCatholic_1.html
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/Dragas_RomanCatholic_2.html
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/Dragas_RomanCatholic_3.html
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/Dragas_RomanCatholic_4.html
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/Dragas_RomanCatholic_5.html
http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/english/Dragas_RomanCatholic_6.html
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