The Inevitable Fall of the Enlightenment - with Benjamin Boyce

This is a repost of a discussion with Benjamin Boyce (@BenjaminABoyce) on the topic of the Enlightenment, rationalism and science, the problem of identity on the levels of the individual and the group, value hierarchies, authoritarianism, subsidiarity, love, and sacrifice. This conversation happened after I had some disagreements with James Lindsay on Twitter (X) about the Enlightenment and authoritarianism.My and Jordan Peterson’s research paper published through ARC.Identity: Individual and the State versus the Subsidiary Hierarchy of Heaven: https://www.arc-research.org/research-papers/the-subsidiary-hierarchyOriginal interview on Benjamin’s channel: https://youtu.be/UlClZ92kOVU?si=bgyngPBnLh4MPZqH--Join us for the Symbolic World Summit on Feb 29th, 2024. Learn more: https://thesymbolicworld.com/summit --Timestamps:00:00 - Coming up00:56 - Intro music01:21 - The frame of "Enlightenment"04:41 - How to evaluate value hierarchies11:24 - Authoritarianism is always possible12:49 - How do you know if there's an imbalance?16:09 - Reality's revenge against Enlightenment thinking17:49 - The current "Christian nationalism"20:00 - We are downstream from WW223:21 - What is subsidiarity?23:27 - ARC essay27:08 - I'm not an idealist29:58 - Imposing "Christianity"32:05 - The world is becoming religious again34:41 - The only solution for the problem of identity36:43 - How does Subsidiarity work?43:18 - What is an individual? And what is love?55:26 - Top-down imposition01:01:24 - No one wins the culture war01:05:03 - Where does transformation start?01:06:52 - Compassion for the strange01:10:01 - Benjamin's approach01:11:03 - The purpose of sacrifice01:15:55 - Sacrifice and love01:17:31 - Ritualized sacrifice01:20:19 - Projects01:24:15 - Postmodern storytelling tools💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageauOur website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.