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This is a repost of my second conversation with Bernardo Kastrup on the More Christ channel and podcast. We discuss the question of different levels and kinds of consciousness, agency, meta-consciousness, spontaneous (“unconscious”) intelligence, intuition, the boundaries of identity, team dynamics and how all of this tie in with the Genesis narrative.Original video: Episode 88: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup 2: Consciousness, Meta-Consciousness, God, and Morality: https://youtu.be/_-aadYA6S6AMy previous discussion with Bernardo Kastrup: Episode 75: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup: Orthodoxy, Resurrecting the Western Mind, Body & Soul: https://youtu.be/usFMBUTkaLk=============Timestamps:00:00:00 - Coming up next...00:01:04 - Intro music00:01:30 - Introducing the guests00:02:05 - Reflecting on their last conversation00:04:42 - The continuity of identity00:07:30 - John Vervaeke: Agency VS Consciousness00:09:38 - Attributing private inner consciousness00:17:27 - Team dynamics00:25:53 - Is top-down more fundamental than bottom-up?00:30:24 - Illusions below00:35:46 - The boundaries of identity00:43:01 - The angels serve Man00:47:00 - Where are angels and demons?00:52:12 - Back to the problem of multiplicity00:57:27 - True contradictions01:03:22 - "Unconscious"/Spontaneous intelligence01:13:01 - Drugs and trauma01:18:53 - Are other beings also meta-conscious?01:21:00 - The story of Genesis01:24:22 - What is meta-consciousness?01:30:47 - Meta-consciousness in the Genesis narrative01:38:42 - Moral responsibility01:46:51 - The Fall into meta-cognition=============- The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com- Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store- The Language of Creation (Matthieu Pageau): https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8- Carving workshop: https://jonathanpageau.thinkific.com/courses/st-john-baptistThe Symbolic World podcast:- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5- Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488More videos from The Symbolic World:- Odysee: https://odysee.com/@thesymbolicworld:2- Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageauClips- French Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageaufrançais- Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/pageaujonathan/- Dtube: https://steemit.com/@symbolismJoin the conversation:- Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/- The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/Support this channel: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/- Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos- Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau- Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageauSocial media links:- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld- Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageauMy intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.My website designers, Anomalist Design: https://www.anomalistdesign.com/
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