I have something to say some of you may not like to hear but I feel that I must say it. It is the least that I can do and a shame on me if I do not. I have someone very dear to me, a young woman that turned 19 this March. They (her parents) left Serbia a month before she was born. Last summer she left the house of her parents and enlisted within the Serbian military. She is a tank commander right now stationed somewhere she can\'t disclose north of Kosovo. She had never even seen Serbia before last year but the whole time she wanted to go back and protect Kosovo and the Orthodox people there. A few days ago she was in tears crying to me out of frustration and anger. I had never heard her say the things she told me. I was terrified for her well being. \"I hate all Orthodox! None of them care for us. I remember when the whole bombing of Serbia happened in 99 when we went to non Serb Orthodox Churches and after liturgy I brought up the topic of conversation everyone looked at us like we were nationalist loonies. All I wanted them to do is agree with me that what was happening was wrong!\"
If you are like me and lived most of your life in America you probably have lived with the same lies being fed to you that i have. \"We had to bomb Serbia. Slobodan Milosevic was ethnicly cleansing every non Serb around.\"
Funny he didn\'t touch the large Vlach (Romanian) minorities all through out Serbia. That have lived along side Serbs for over a thousand years.
As Bill Clinton put it \"The moral fiber of the Serbian people leave me no choice.\" Or something of that nature.
I remember when on the news I saw Belgrade being bombed. Hospitals, bridges and other civilian buildings were hit by bombs. The people died and I said \"Oh what are the Serbs complaining about now? If they didn\'t start the war none of this would be happening.\"
Well here we are today. Years later and we find out that all of the supposed ethnic cleansing done by the Serbs never happened. Srebrenica was a hoax as was Racek. Yet we hear nothing about Krajina and Operation Flash and Storm where Croatians with the help of American \"retired generals\" bombed refugee columns of Serbs, dynomited houses, some still with people inside causing the largest wave refugee in the entire war. But do any of you even know where Krajina is? No, because the news doesn\'t tell us any of that. It is a region in Tito made Croatia where the Serbs have been living for hundreds of years. You will be lucky to find a single Serb family today in ethnicly cleansed Krajina.
And even today we get on the news \"Freedom and Independence of Kosovars.\" And because we are Americans we hear the key phrases. \"Freedom\", \"Independence\" and like yuppies we buy into it because things like Freedom and Independence are as American as baseball and apple pie. So how can it be bad? Didn\'t \"strong man\" Slobodan Milosevic try to ethnicly cleanse all non Serbs? Why shouldn\'t we let the Albanians who are the majority in Kosovo be their own country?
Did you know it wasn\'t that long ago when Kosovo was a majority of Serbs? During World War 2, Albanian Muslims poured in to VOLUNTEER for the Waffen SS Skanderbeg unit (Along with the Muslims who made up their own Waffen SS and the Croatians who\'s methods of killing Serbs frightened even the German Nazis.) and under the guidance of Facist Italy and Nazi Germany they slaughtered Serbs and injected their own population into Kosovo. After World War 2, Tito in an attempt to balance out Yugoslavia took steps to weaken the Serbs which were the largest population. Such as taking away Vardar and giving it the name \"Macedonia\" giving it a made up history. Such as giving autonomy to Vojvodina. And lastly but most relevant, autonomy to Kosovo and refused to allow any Serbs to re settle it while at the same time opening up the boarders to Albanians hoping to gradually make Albania part of Yugoslavia. The Albanians had another goal: \"Greater Albania.\" Which has been the goal ever since (and perhaps before) The Leagues of Prizren. They harrassed and abused Serbs forcing them to flee Kosovo until today where there is a 90 percent majority of Albanians.
Within the first 100 days of UN administration of Kosovo, 150 Orthodox Churches and Monestaries went down while 200 Mosques went up. The Albanians in Kosovo are dirt poor yet the Mosques are lined with gold leafs and like in Bosnia, some even fly the Saudi Arabian flag.
\"The Serbian people survived 500 years of suffering under the Ottoman Empire. They survived the atrocities commited under the Nazis by the facist Croatian and Muslim enemies. They survived under Tito\'s brutal communist system. But through our ignorance and gullibility and a delibirate concerted campaign of lies and disinformation to destroy these heroic people they are facing annihilation by a hostile world.\"
Here is a video no more then 10 or so minutes showing some of the horror. It\'s very tame compared to some other things i\'ve come across.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OvgNPga8KIA
A lot of people PM me and ask me questions about my name \"Thief.\" I\'m a fairly old member here but I tend to keep more to myself. But when I first joined I wasn\'t sure what name to pick. I thought of the \"Good Thief\" by Christ\'s side and he is someone who I try to be like. Every time I read in Church or think to myself \"Remember me oh Lord in Thy Kingdom.\" I get a chill. And then \"Today you will be with me in paradise.\" Christ\'s reply gives me a bigger chill. We are all to show the same faithfulness as the Good Thief.
But how can we ask Christ to remember us when we\'ve forgotten our Orthodox brothers and sisters in Serbia?
When the Mahomedans get a funny picture drawn about their murderous \"prophet\" they all raise up in one loud voice.
What do we do? Why are we doing nothing? Do you look to your right and left and say \"well I can\'t do anything, i\'ll let someone else who can try.\"
WRONG.
As you say that the person beside you is thinking the same thing. It is up to YOU to inform yourself. Do whatever you can! The most important right now is to inform other Orthodox and other people in general of the situation.
There are many online sources but by far the most complete one concerning history is this:
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/
I\'ve spent hours reading through it and I am still not done. But it shows the exact method of the New World Order of dismantling this nation and ripping it piece by piece.
This is another website which was sent to me recently which deals with the more modern situation but also covers the history very well. Click on the articles section. Warning however you will see the bodies of fellow Orthodox cut, torn, burned, and all sorts of horrible things.
http://byzantinesacredart.com/
You have to understand, we are at war. We have been under the threat of destruction for so long. And many of us have no idea. If we do nothing we risk losing more Orthodox lives. They will not stop at Kosovo. We already see Albanians flying banners in FYROM \"Macedonia\" saying \"Without independence in Macedonia there is no true justice.\"
Interesting thing my dear friend came across while patrolling in Serbia. At the boarder Albanians were holding up a banner.
\"Kill, torture Christians wherever they may be. Wait for them in their houses with a sword while they hold a spoon.\" ~ Mohamed
Do you think the 21st century civilized? No. Nothing has changed by the year, that and technology but we are in the same troubles and threats. If WE don\'t do anything nobody will.
If you have any questions please send me a PM and I will be more then happy to explain any aspect. If you believe like I did that the attack on Serbia by NATO was justified we can go case by case and debate every tiny aspect until you are satisfied.
So please, don\'t forget your Orthodox brothers and sisters.
ICXC
NIKA
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Samo Sloga Srbina Spasava
\"Only Unity Saves Serbia\"
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Dear Thief
Christ is Risen!
My name is Kris. I am an Albanian Orthodox, born and raised in Tirana, Albania. Now I live in Toronto.
I\'ve got a suggestion as I think I\'m not wise enough to give advises: DO NOT GET INVOLVED. PLEASE DON\'T FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN FAITH. It\'s a very complicated issues, it\'s got ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Muslim Albanians. I could confess to you that the orthodox in Albania dislike (I do not want to use the word \"hate\") all the serbs equally. This conflict is at national level and has got nothing to do with religion. Please do yourself a favor, do not get involved. It\'s got the potential to ruin your faith as it almost ruined mine and the ones of other orthodox serbians or albanians. Just remember, the orthodox christians do not apply the jewish concept of religion. Orthodox are the ones that attend to their faith by going to church and praying everyday. Only 3-5% or serbians do that and the same in Albania or for that matter in Russia, Greece and everywhere. Do yourself a favor. I\'m very experienced about this balkan crap. Please, do yourself a favor.
Yours in Christ
kris
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\"Funny he didn\'t touch the large Vlach (Romanian) minorities all through out Serbia. That have lived along side Serbs for over a thousand years.\"
Not so strange at all, Thief. The Vlachs (or Wallachians) are, after all, \"fellow Orthodox\". And Srebrenica was most definitely NOT a hoax. It was a war crime. The film footage from the Serbian side has finally been released. Many ordinary Serbs simply couldn\'t believe that such an atrocity had been committed by their leaders, quite understandable, as they had been kept in the dark for so long.
As for \"western media\" being hopelessly biased, it helps to get your news from as broad variety of sources as possible. BBC, Deutsche Welle, Radio Netherlands, Radio Canada, NPR (National Public Radio), Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), there\'s plenty to choose from.
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I pray for Orthodox Christians in Kosovo and other places every night. I sent letters to politicians, signed petitions, and called the white house before this unforgivable atrocity was further perpetuated this year, begging them to stop the madness. Then after those thugs declared their false statehood, I called the white house 2x to tell them how disgusted I am at our extremely arrogant foreign policy and our disregard for international law.
I know that our fearless leader probably doesn\'t know that I called and even if he did, he wouldn\'t care for one minute how some miserable subject of his feels.
God save me! God save us all!
I am a little less ignorant than the average person and the horrifying pictures and videos break my heart. Without NATO, without america, this would not be possible. The gruesome atrocities committed by the albanian terrorists are extremely well documented and this Godless nation has no excuse for its action.
Obviously, I am not very happy right now. I don\'t feel very holy.
I\'m not proud to be an american. In fact, I am rather disgusted and ashamed.
Please pray for me.
Thanks!
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krisintoronto:
You can\'t tell me it has nothing to do with Islam when 150 Orthodox sites get destroyed while 200 Mosques go up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsSswNz7lBU
Tell me what does this have to do with then?
I\'ve spoken with many Albanians. Muslim and Orthodox and every single one I have spoken with told me something interesting. \"The religion of Albanians is Albanism!\"
I do not use the term Orthodox as the Jews would as an ethnic meaning, but in a meaning that breaks ethnic divides.
I don\'t think it is your place to say 3 to 5 percent of anyone in any country goes to Church. You don\'t really know this and even if it is true it isn\'t anyone\'s place to consider anyone more or less Orthodox then anyone.
I think you mean well but I also think that maybe you do not have all of the information. And if you do, and I do not please share with me why I should \"keep out\" of this.
BlackK: So now you are trying to tell me Slobodan Milosevic wanted to kill all non Orthodox? That he was some sort of Orthodox zealot? I\'m pretty sure he was an athiest as most Communists are. The whole notion that you are suggesting sounds a bit silly to me but perhaps you can convince me of Milosevic\'s supposed Orthodox zealotry.
What film footage of Srebrenica? I know Naser Oric recored his killings and kept them like trophies. But the UN team that went in there could not fight 8,000 bodies of Muslims. These numbers were thrown out there along with 8,000 names. A lot of which were oddly found to have voted in Bosnia. Did you know that president Alija was told by Clinton that they needed 5,000 dead Muslims for America to intervene? Did you know Srebrenica was taken over by the Serbs, not once, not twice, but three times?
http://srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Srebrenica/index.html
Take your time and read through that. It has credible sources and everything. I wouldn\'t waste my time if it didn\'t. Even an account from a few officers there.
All of the sources you have given me are all \"western Media.\"
Benjamin: I am happy for what you have done. God be with you. What you have seen is tame by comparisant. You can find pictures of Serbs skinned and burned. Of Muslims holding up Serb heads, carrying boxes of their \"trophies.\"
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krisintoronto wrote:
Dear Thief
Christ is Risen!
My name is Kris. I am an Albanian Orthodox, born and raised in Tirana, Albania. Now I live in Toronto.
I've got a suggestion as I think I'm not wise enough to give advises: DO NOT GET INVOLVED. PLEASE DON'T FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OWN FAITH. It's a very complicated issues, it's got ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Muslim Albanians. I could confess to you that the orthodox in Albania dislike (I do not want to use the word "hate") all the serbs equally. This conflict is at national level and has got nothing to do with religion. Please do yourself a favor, do not get involved. It's got the potential to ruin your faith as it almost ruined mine and the ones of other orthodox serbians or albanians. Just remember, the orthodox christians do not apply the jewish concept of religion. Orthodox are the ones that attend to their faith by going to church and praying everyday. Only 3-5% or serbians do that and the same in Albania or for that matter in Russia, Greece and everywhere. Do yourself a favor. I'm very experienced about this balkan crap. Please, do yourself a favor.
Yours in Christ
kris
We ALL need to be involved! Every last one of us! Why shouldnt we be involved!? Why? So much Albanian Terrorist garbage is being hidden and will NEVER be accepted, ever. I am involved and wish I could be even more involved! When you\'re Brothers and Sisters IN Christ are being persecuted, murdered, butchered it is your call to get involved. Serbian Orthodox Christians are and continue to be persecuted in Kosovo and its a crime!
C\'Verom u Boga!
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Misha Sarov
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dear friends.
Greek people still helping our brothers in Serbia and in Kossovo Metohija.
There is an amazing woman ,Mrs Kiriaki Panagiotidou who organizes convoys with humanitarian aid for the Serbs,for over 15 years.
As she has told she faces major difficulties from NATO and US officers to pass through Skopje and entry in the Serbian part of Bosnia.
Muslims and Croats receive help from external resources but Serbs are not allowed and live in extreme poverty and sometimes they have not even their daily food.
I ll conclude with a phrase told by the holy elder who leads the Serbian Church,Patriarch Pavle:
\"If the only way to create a greater Serbia is by crime, then I do not accept that, and let that Serbia disappear. And also if a lesser Serbia can only survive by crime, let it also disappear. And if all the Serbs had to die and only I remained and I could live only by crime, then I would not accept that; it would be better to die.”
ps .Vlachs are not romanians ,they are just orthodox christian speaking latin as happened very often in Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire.
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Misha_ wrote:
"If the only way to create a greater Serbia is by crime, then I do not accept that, and let that Serbia disappear. And also if a lesser Serbia can only survive by crime, let it also disappear. And if all the Serbs had to die and only I remained and I could live only by crime, then I would not accept that; it would be better to die.”
Amen! Misha, do you have a citation for this quote?
I have the information I need by this point. Now I struggle to remember those who are suffering, those who love us and especially those who hate us. May God have mercy on all of them.
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Very warming from all of you.
It is really disgusting how bias the world can be against the Serbs. I heard America sent weapons to the Albanians in Kosovo \"in order to keep peace.\" I spoke with my friend in the Serb military and she was telling me Albanians have already started taking pot shots at the Serbs.
On a side note Vlachs are Romanians. Or rather Romanians are Vlachs. But Vlach is a term that derives from Valah which is Germanic for latin speaker or Roman. The etymology of the word is also related to Welsh which were Romanized Celts.
Vlach is the slavic variation of Valah.
For example if you ask a Vlach what language he speaks he will say \"Eu vorbesc limba Romana.\" Same if you ask me what I speak or any other Romanian. We don\'t even say \"Romanian\" we say Roman. \"Eu sunt Roman.\"
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