SS
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TWO ALMOST THE MOST VERY
Dear friends;
IMPORTANT \"IFS\" ALMOST NOTHING ELSE IS
MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ANSWER TO
THESE IFS, THOUGH THERE MAY BE
SOME \"IFS\" WHICH ARE MORE IMPORTANT
TO FIND ANSWERS FOR.
CONISIDER:
\"\"IF THE FILIOQUE IS NOT TRUE, IT SHOULD
NOT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE CREED.
BUT IF IT IS TRUE, THEN THERE IS NO LAW
AGAINST IT ITS CONCUSION THERE.\"
[PAGE 161].
GILL, JOSEPH, S.J. (1959). THE COUNCIL
OF FLORENCE. CAMBRIDGE, ENGLAND:
CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY PRESS.
FAIR ENOUGH. BUT THE
FILIOQUE IS NOT TRUE, BECAUSE THE ONLY
ONE WHO IS TRUE, WHO IS THE TRUTH,
OUR LORD GOD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST,
SAYS THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH PROCEEDS FROM
THE FATHER, NOWHERE SAYING THE WORDS
\"FILIOQUE\" OR \"KAI EK HOUIOS\" OR
HOWEVER YOU SAY IT GRAMMATICALLY
CORRECT IN N.T. GREEK.
TAKE CARE.
GOD SAVE US ALL FROM FILIOQUE INTHAT
ASMUCH AS WE HAVE BEEN ENLIGHTENED
BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE WORDS OF
OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST THAT \"THE
SPIRIT PROCEEDS FROM THE FATHER.\"
PERIOD. AMEN.
JOHN 15:26.
TAKE CARE.
LORD HAVE MERCY ON US.
HOLY GOD HOLY MIGHTY HOLY IMMORTAL
HAVE MERCY ON US.
TAKE CARE.
ALWAYS,
SCOTT R. HARRINGTON
ERIE PA
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JK
#2
Calm down, man!
lol...
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SS
#1
Me? Uncalm? My problem is lethargy, not being uncalm. What planet are you coming from? I\'m tired most of the time, not uncalm.
Anyway, what\'s uncalm about saying \"I reject Filioque.\"/
God is so good to all of us.
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KM
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Ahh, I\'ll actually make a response to this one, though I realize that it will make little difference. I\'m rarely on the computer. The reason that the filioque can\'t be taken literally or added to the creed is that it divides the Godhead and sorta makes it seem like we worship multiple gods. Which is not true.To explain: We worship one God, the Father from who all things come and the Son who is begotten of the Father and the Spirit who proceeds from the Father. The other two persons of the Godhead also come from the Father, though unlike creation, they have always been with the Father. The Father has never been alone, nor does his relationship as a father makes any sense without the son. He can\'t be separated from the other two, but neither can He be blended with them. The Godhead has always been in relationship with itself, thus we are given the conversation at the point of creation; let us make ... If it were possible for the Spirit to proceed from the Father and Son from all eternity, that would make Him some other type of God, one that is separate from the other two. Thus the Son would be in hierarchy to the Spirit. They would not be in true communion with eachother. We are not told about the relationship between the Son and Spirit in all eternity, only that the Son on earth sends the Spirit to earth upon his death and resurrection, though the Spirit was always in Creation from the time it was created. He moved across the waters. Christ came to earth to put us back in communion with the Father, or to be more biblically accurate, He was sent by the Father. God sent His only-begotten Son to save the world, to make us co-heirs with Christ in so much as we follow Christ and become His body. Anyway, all this is to say that the reason that we don\'t hold the filioque is that we believe in one God the Father Almighty with His Son and Spirit. The Trinity is formed around the Father, though could never be divided from eachother.
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Rev Fr Athanasios Haros
#4
Scotland1960 wrote:
Me? Uncalm? My problem is lethargy, not being uncalm. What planet are you coming from? I'm tired most of the time, not uncalm.
Anyway, what's uncalm about saying "I reject Filioque."/
God is so good to all of us.
ALL CAPS means you are yelling :)
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