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Dear friends? What are the Eight Tones? What is a tone? How does one recognize it being chanted in Church? Is there any particular reason why there are just Eight Tones? (Is that the musical scale)?
Are tones something mainly the choir needs to know about? Do you feel left out, like me, that you don\'t (can\'t?) chant like the rest of the people? Well, I shouldn\'t envy anyone. But I feel these people know how to sing beautifully to the LORD. It is not of this world how majestic the church chants sound to Western ears. I am used to noise and abominable machines like organs and pianos. And guitars. Okay for entertainment, but not quite New Testament style of worship.
Take care.
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Dear Scotland1960,
To answer all your questions accurately would take a book by itself...The Eight Tones is more than just a system of notes and scales. Although it is that, it is also a cycle of hymns. If you look at the Book of the Eight Tones (Octoechos in Greek or Obihod in Russian) you will find hundreds and hundreds of hymns devoted to each one of the tones, so that an entire service can be chanted (Matins or Vespers, etc.) with the prescribed texts for each tone. It may be hard to understand at first, but everything is cyclical, week by week, beginning at Pentecost.
The tones themselves roughly correspond to our scales, but the scale intervals, at least in Byzantine chant, can differ greatly from what our \"Western\" ears are used to.
I don\'t know if you are a musician, but here is a very rough guide to recognizing (and singing) the tones at least in their Byzantine form:
Tone 1: What the west calls the Dorian mode. It is the most ancient of the tones. It is just like our natural minor scale based on D or E.
Tone 2: What we usually hear the 1st and 2nd Antiphons in.. Many times it is like a minor scale but the drone or ison is on the 5th degree, like this--G-A flat-B natural-C-D-E flat-F-G--just like a C minor scale but the finalis is G.
Tone 3: Like our F or G major scale, but often has cadences on the 6th degree (Deceptive cadence in western terminology). Has a very joyful feel which is why some of the saddest texts are written in this mode as also mode 7, which is similar.
Tone 4 : Like a scale based on E using all the white keys of the piano. E-F-G-A-B-C-D-E. But if you ascend to the B and then immediately go back, the B becomes B flat.
Tone 5 (Also called First Plagal): Like our minor scale based on G or A. But in its sticheraric variant, it is like Tone 1 except when you ascend to the 6th degree of the scale and keep going up, the flat becomes a natural.
Tone 6 (Second Plagal). The most difficult to sing in, but the easiest to recognize. Think of the Greek song \"Misirlou\" or \"Havah Nagila\". There is a variant that sounds similar to Tone 2.
Tone 7 (Grave Tone): Like Tone 3 but with melodic line often starting on and revolving around the 4th degree of the scale. Sometimes can be hard to distinguish from Tone 3.
Tone 8 (4th Plagal): Just like our major scale on C, sometimes transposed to F or G. 7th degree flatted if ascending to it and immediately going down.
There are variants of all these:
Heirmologic--Fast tempo, usually only one or two notes per syllable, from the Heirmos, the first hymn of a canon.
Sticheraric--Medium fast, includes most of the Dismissal hymns and other hymns of the Liturgy
Papadic--so called because it imitates the way priests (papades) chant. The slowest of the three. Cherubic Hymn, Consecration Hymn, Communion Hymn in this style.
There are reasons why there are 8 tones, some of them are practical, some are theological (the 8th Day, etc.) but time would take me too long to elaborate.
This is just a very rough and undetailed explanation, I hope it piques your interest. A great source about our Orthodox Music, by my friends and colleauges Stan and Nancy Takis, can be found at www.newbyz.org.
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I\'d like to add that there are several reasons why many Orthodox Churches don\'t use even the organ. Even though we chant Psalm 150 every Sunday at Matins, where it says to praise Him with various instruments, we generally don\'t like to use them. One of the reasons is historical, the other more of a spiritual one. We Orthodox use the Septuagint text of the Old Testament. You know those lines at the beginning of many Psalms that say something like, \"For stringed instruments. A Psalm of David.\" in the Hebrew Psalter? Well, in the LXX (Septuagint), those headings aren\'t there. Since many of the early Christians were Jews from the diaspora who used the Septuagint Greek text and not the Hebrew, their usage prevailed. The Jews in the diaspora did not use instruments but the Jews in Jerusalem did. The other reason why we don\'t use instruments is because the early Christians did not want to imitate in any way what the Romans did in the theater or in their worship. They felt that instruments took away from the business at hand (worship) and they also wanted to take the entertainment aspect of it out and not include it at all in Christian worship. Many Greek parishes use the organ, but that is because an organ was used at Hagia Sophia and the organ (or harmonium) was invented by the Byzantines, but it was only used as an ison-holder and not as a melodic instrument.
Kassiani, I love Tone 7. You are right, you don\'t normally hear that tone in the Liturgy very often. Only in Matins or Vespers when it is the tone of the day. But some hymns you might hear in that tone besides the Apolytikion of the Resurrection \"Thou hast scattered death by Thy Cross\" (Katelysas ton Stavron Sou ton thanaton\") are the Doxology, and the hymn we sing at the Pentecost kneeling service \"Who is so great a God as our God? For you alone are the God that does wonders.\" (in Greek, \"Tis Theos Megas...etc.\") Also the Apolytikion of St. Demetrios and a few others.
I loved your post, BTW. LOL!!!
On a more serious note (no pun intended), I recall hearing old time chanters refer to tone 6 as the \"crying\" tone because of its mood.
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Giannis M
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We don\'t hear tone 7 in liturgy, because we haven\'t done a good job of learning it...there is plenty of music out there for \"Barys\", for the entire Liturgy, and we don\'t do anything with it even for that 1 out of every 8 weeks that we are supposed to hear tone 7.... As a matter of fact, there are 2 flavors of Tone 7...one based on the byzantine note \"Ga\", and one on \"Zo\"...there is plenty of music out there for both.
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